CBS新闻事实核查团队在纽约市对明尼苏达州州长提姆·沃尔兹(Tim Walz)与俄亥俄州参议员JD文森(JD Vance)的2024年副总统辩论中的主要声明进行了验证。
沃尔兹指出:特朗普“在1月20日和平地交出权力”
错误解读:事实并非如此。2021年1月20日,拜登就职总统时从前任总统唐纳德·特朗普手中接过了政权。然而,在同一天之前的一次事件中,即1月6日,支持特朗普的抗议者在美国国会大厦发动暴力攻击。
沃尔兹表示:伊朗在民主党领导下获得了超过100亿美元的资金
错误陈述:文森的说法与事实不符。《伊核协议》(JCPOA)是在2015年由巴拉克·奥巴马政府牵头谈判签订的,而不是民主党领导人所为。特朗普总统于2018年将美国退出该协议。至2019年9月,伊朗开始撤出该协议并考虑加快核反应堆铀浓缩的速度。
Vance指出:特朗普未能破坏“奥巴马医疗法”
错误分析:Vance的说法不准确。特朗普在2017年曾表态,他希望让该法律自行崩溃,并在之后构建新的健康保险计划来替代它。民主党以及一些左翼智囊团曾批评特朗普政府的举措是企图破坏由《平价医疗法案》建立的医保市场。
Vance声称:国土安全部“已经失去了32万儿童”
错误解读:文森可能是指美国国土安全部审计总署(OIG)8月发布的报告。该报告显示,从财政年份2019年至2023年间,约有3.2万名无人陪伴的儿童未参加移民法庭听审。这涵盖了特朗普政府和拜登政府的部分时间。该报告还指出,截至2024年5月,美国国土安全部移民与海关执法局尚未向大约29.1万名无陪伴儿童发出传票通知。
Vance认为:奥巴马第二任期后跨境人员数量下降
错误说明:在8月份,南部边境的非法入境人数为58,038人。当特朗普政府于2021年1月离开时,当月的非法入境人数为75,316人。之后几个月,这个数字一直在稳步下滑,并且在拜登总统发布一项关于禁止大多数寻求在美国-墨西哥边境避难移民的声明后加速下降。
Vance指称:副总统哈里斯成为了“边境事务负责人”
错误表述:副总统卡玛拉·哈里斯并未被要求担任美国政府的“边境事务负责人”或负责边境移民政策和执法。这一职责主要由国土安全部部长亚历杭德罗·马约拉斯及其部门承担,该部门管理着包括海关与边境保护局在内的三个移民机关。
Vance声称:住房成本因数百万非法移民的竞争而变得不那么可负担
部分正确解读:研究显示,在拜登政府下,移民的增长是推动市场需求的一个因素。然而,自大衰退以来,美国大约有150万到700万的住房缺口已经是一个长期问题,并非由最近的大规模移民造成。
Vance提到:伊朗导弹袭击导致美军受重伤时,特朗普将其比作“头痛”
错误事实:在2020年1月8日,伊朗对伊拉克阿萨德空军基地进行导弹袭击后,多名美国军人员受伤。特朗普最初表示没有人员伤亡,后来称这些伤情为“头痛”等,并承认它们被诊断为脑震荡。但在1月22日,他表示这些伤害并不严重。
沃尔兹声称:在天津安门广场抗议期间他在华
错误指称:2014年,时任国会议员的沃尔茨表示他于那一年夏天到过中国并误报了时间线。根据国会会议记录和当地媒体报道,证据显示,他的实际访问时间和描述与天安门广场事件的时间线不符。
沃尔兹指出:特朗普将气候变化称为“骗局”
部分正确说明:特朗普总统确实曾在多个场合提及全球变暖或气候变化为“骗局”,并且还开玩笑说这种现象可能导致沿海地区更多的海滩房产投资价值增加。
沃尔兹提到:文森过去曾承认存在环境问题
错误对比:文森在2020年的一次演讲中的确表示:“当然,我们面对的是一个社会中的气候问题。”特朗普则将气候变化描述为“骗局”,并在一次公开演讲中称它带来更多的沿海房产是件好事。
沃尔兹说:哈里斯领导下的药品价格增长了约7%
部分正确描述:数据表明,在拜登政府下,平均处方药费用从2020年的$2,549增加到2022年$2,820,涨幅为11%。而特朗普总统任期内,这个数字略有上升。
沃尔兹强调:哈里斯未投资于“蓝天、碧水或气候变化政策”
错误概括:在拜登政府期间,3700亿美元的资金用于气候变化相关的政策,以推动美国清洁能源创新、生产和应用的本土制造业。这是历史上向国内清洁能源制造领域提供资金的最大数额。该政策涵盖风能和太阳能以外的关键领域,包括核能、氢技术、电池生产以及碳捕获技术。
沃尔兹陈述:过去12个月是国家历史上减少阿片类药物过量死亡数量最多的时期—俄亥俄州降幅达30%
正确说明:根据疾病控制与预防中心的初步数据,自2024年3月起,与2023年同期相比,全美因阿片类药物致死的人数减少了7%,这是自此类记录开始以来的首次显著下降。而俄亥俄州的数据同样显示了类似趋势。
沃尔兹提及:你签署的明尼苏达州法律指出,在一次失败的晚期堕胎手术后幸存下来的医生对婴儿生存的权利没有义务
错误解读:沃尔兹的陈述中忽略了一些关键背景信息。2023年,沃尔茨签署了一项更新后的法案来处理因堕胎而出生的婴儿(也称为“活产”)相关医疗护理问题。新法规定,任何在出生存活的婴儿都应被视为完整的人,并获得法律保护。此前的法律规定医生有义务采取合理措施来“保护出生存活婴儿的生命和健康”,而现在则要求医护人员对出生的婴儿“尽可能提供适当的照顾”。此变化使父母可以在预知婴儿难以生存的情况下不进行过度且徒劳的努力干预。
注:以上内容旨在忠实翻译原文,保持原意,并优化为更适合中文阅读者的风格。
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原文地址:Fact checking VP debate claims from Walz and Vance’s 2024 showdown
新闻日期:2024-10-01
原文摘要:
The CBS News Confirmed team fact checked the biggest claims made by Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and Ohio Sen. JD Vance in tonight's 2024 vice presidential debate in New York City. CBS News hosted the only planned vice presidential debate between Vance and Walz on Tuesday, Oct. 1, on CBS and CBS News 24/7. Download the free CBS News app for live coverage, post-debate analysis and more. The debate moderators were "CBS Evening News" anchor and managing editor Norah O'Donnell and "Face the Nation" moderator and chief foreign affairs correspondent Margaret Brennan. CBS News' coverage of the vice presidential debate can be found here. Misleading: Vance claims Trump "peacefully gave over power on Jan. 20"Vance: "It's really rich for Democratic leaders to say that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power on Jan. 20."Details: President Biden was sworn into office on Jan. 20, 2021, assuming the office of the presidency from former President Donald Trump.However, before Mr. Biden's inauguration that day, pro-Trump protesters participated in a violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol Building on Jan. 6, 2021. The insurrection disrupted a joint session of Congress that had convened to certify the results of the 2020 presidential election. In the weeks leading up to the joint session, Trump pressured then-Vice President Mike Pence, who presided over the certification of the results by Congress, to reject the votes. Pence later told Fox News, "President Trump demanded that I use my authority as vice president presiding over the count of the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election, by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that." He added, "The president specifically asked me — and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me — to literally reject votes to which would have resulted in the issue being turned over to the House of Representatives, and literally, chaos would have ensued."The episode is at the center of the federal indictment of Trump alleging he attempted to overturn the 2020 presidential election. The indictment portrays Pence as the central figure resisting Trump and his co-conspirators' alleged schemes to delay the transfer of power before and on Jan. 6, 2021. Trump has pleaded not guilty to all charges in the case.Trump was impeached by the House of Representatives on Jan. 13, 2021 on a one-count article of impeachment charging him with incitement of insurrection. Trump's February 2021 impeachment trial in the Senate concluded with his acquittal in a 57-43 vote. Some Republican senators said that they voted to acquit Trump due to jurisdictional issues. "What former President Trump did to undermine faith in our election system and disrupt the peaceful transfer of power is inexcusable," Sen. John Thune, Republican of South Dakota, who voted to acquit Trump at the 2021 impeachment trial, said in a statement at the time.Trump also decided not to attend President Biden's inauguration on Jan. 20, the first president in more than 150 years to skip the ceremony where his successor is sworn in following a presidential election.By Steve ReillyFalse, needs context: Vance says Iran received over $100 billion in unfrozen assets thanks to HarrisVance: "Iran, which launched this attack, has received over $100 billion in unfrozen assets thanks to the Kamala Harris administration."Details: The Iran nuclear deal, known as JCPOA, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, was negotiated in 2015, while Barack Obama was president, not during the Biden administration. Trump pulled the U.S. out of the deal in 2018. By September 2019, Iran was pulling away from the accord and beginning to work on ways to enrich uranium for nuclear reactors more quickly.The $100 billion figure mentioned by Vance refers to potential sanctions relief — the unfreezing of Iranian assets — if Iran completed key nuclear steps under the JCPOA. Because the deal fell apart, assets are currently frozen. Additionally, the White House archives cite the U.S. Treasury Department's estimate at a little over $50 billion.By Jui Sarwate and Dilcia Mercedes False: Vance says Trump could have destroyed ObamacareVance: "Of course, you don't have to agree with everything that President Trump has ever said or ever done, but when Obamacare was crushing under the weight of its own regulatory burden and healthcare costs, Donald Trump could have destroyed the program. Instead, he worked in a bipartisan way to ensure that Americans had access to affordable care."Details: Vance is contradicted by Trump, who posted in 2017 that he wanted to "let Obamacare fail and then come together and do a great healthcare plan" to replace it. During his term, Democrats and liberal think tanks decried a number of moves they said aimed to "sabotage" the insurance marketplaces created by the Affordable Care Act.For example, experts blamed declines in enrollment on steep cuts by the Trump administration to spending on advertising and enrollment assistance for the marketplaces. Efforts to overturn key provisions of the law, like ending the penalties tied to the act's "individual mandate," were passed on party-line votes with no Democratic support.Trump also ended subsidies paid to insurers, in a bid to force Democrats to the bargaining table over repeal-and-replace attempts, and predicted that the law would be "dead next month if it doesn't get that money." Contrary to expectations, stopping the subsidies ended up in plans with free premiums that buoyed enrollment totals, though they fell short of restoring the decrease that happened during his term. By Alexander TinMisleading: Vance claims DHS "has effectively lost" 320,000 children Vance: "Right now in this country, Margaret, we have 320,000 children that the Department of Homeland Security has effectively lost. Some of them have been sex trafficked, some of them, hopefully, are at homes with their families. Some of them have been used as drug trafficking mules. The real family separation policy in this country is unfortunately Kamala Harris' wide open southern border."Details: Vance is likely referring to a report released by the Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General in August. That report found that between fiscal years 2019 and 2023, roughly 32,000 unaccompanied children did not show up to their immigration court hearings. That period includes parts of both the Trump and Biden administrations. The report also said U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement had not yet issued court notices to about 291,000 unaccompanied children as of May 2024.Vance is likely adding the two numbers to argue that the federal government "effectively lost" hundreds of thousands of migrant children. But the statistics do not necessarily reflect missing children. And unlike the Trump administration and its "zero tolerance" border crackdown, the Biden administration has not implemented a policy to separate migrant children from their parents. The DHS inspector general said children who do not attend their hearings can be at a higher risk of being trafficked or exploited, but immigrants can fail to show up to immigration court for a variety of reasons, including because the government does not have the correct addresses on file.That ICE has not issued notices to appear to migrant children does not mean those minors are lost — either literally or in the system. It means they've yet to be placed in immigration court proceedings. ICE, after all, is not a child-welfare agency. The Department of Health and Human Services is the agency responsible for caring for and housing migrant children who cross a U.S. border without their parents, and it does so until they are released to sponsors or turn 18. In its response to the DHS inspector general's report, ICE said one reason why the agency could delay issuing notices to appear to unaccompanied children is because they are, under American law, eligible to apply for asylum and legal status outside of the immigration court system.By Camilo Montoya-GalvezTrue, needs context: Walz claims border "crossings down, compared to when Donald Trump left office"Walz: "Look, crossings are down compared to when Donald Trump left office."Details: In August, migrant apprehensions along the U.S. southern border numbered 58,038, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection data. When Trump left office in January 2021, migrant apprehensions along the U.S. southern border numbered 75,316 that month.Illegal border crossings had been dropping steadily since the spring, and the decline accelerated after Mr. Biden issued a proclamation on June 4 that banned most migrants from seeking asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border. Harris has said she would keep Mr. Biden's asylum crackdown in place if elected.However, yearly apprehensions at the U.S. southern border reached record highs during Mr. Biden's term, according to the data. In fiscal year 2023, the number reached 2.2 million. The number of yearly apprehensions under Trump peaked at around 852,000 in fiscal year 2019. By Laura Doan and Camilo Montoya-Galvez False: Vance says Vice President Harris "became the appointed border czar" Details: Vice President Kamala Harris was not asked to be the administration's "border czar" or to oversee immigration policy and enforcement at the U.S.-Mexico border. That has mainly been the responsibility of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas and his department, which oversees the country's main three immigration agencies, including Customs and Border Protection.President Biden tasked Harris with leading the administration's diplomatic campaign to address the "root causes" of migration from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, including poverty, corruption and violence. The region, known as Central America's Northern Triangle, has been one of the main sources of migration to the U.S.-Mexico border over the past decade. In reality, the only role close to that of a "border czar" under the Biden administration was held for only a few months by Roberta Jacobson, a longtime diplomat who served as coordinator for the Southwest border until April 2021.By Camilo Montoya-GalvezPartially true, needs context: Vance claims housing unaffordable because "millions of illegal immigrants ... compete with Americans for scarce homes."Vance: "You've got housing that is totally unaffordable, because we have brought in millions of illegal immigrants to compete with Americans for scarce homes."Details: Research indicates that a growth in immigration under the Biden administration is one factor fueling housing demand. However, the housing shortage in the U.S. of an estimated 1.5 million to 7 million housing units has been a longstanding issue since the Great Recession, when the number of homes being built plummeted. Fewer new homes were built in the 10 years ending in 2018 than in any decade since the 1960s, according to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. By Laura Doan and Emma LiMostly true: Walz claims when Iranian missiles "did fall near U.S. troops and they received traumatic brain injuries, Donald Trump wrote it off as 'headaches'" Walz: "And when Iranian missiles did fall near U.S. troops, and they received traumatic brain injuries, Donald Trump wrote it off as headaches."Details: Iran carried out a missile strike on Iraq's al-Asad air base on Jan. 8, 2020, days after the Trump administration ordered a lethal drone strike on IRGC commander Qassem Soleimani on Jan. 3, 2020, near Baghdad International Airport.On Jan.17, U.S. Central Command said 11 service members were transported out of al-Asad after being screened for traumatic brain injury. Then-President Trump at first said there were no injuries related to the strike, then later referred to "headaches and a couple other things" that were later confirmed by the Pentagon to be incidents of traumatic brain injury. In the same remarks, on Jan. 22, 2020, he said he didn't consider the injuries to be "serious."The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says TBI is "a major cause of death and disability."By Olivia GazisFalse: Walz claimed he was in China during the Tiananmen Square protestsWalz: "All I said on this was, I got there that summer and misspoke on this. That is what I have said. So, I was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protests, went in and from that I learned a lot of what needed to be in governance."Details: In 2014, then-Rep. Walz said he was in mainland China during the Tiananmen Square protests between April and June 1989 during a congressional hearing to mark 25 years since the massacre. According to a congressional transcript, Walz said, "As the events were unfolding, several of us went in. I still remember the train station in Hong Kong."Minnesota Public Radio first reported Walz's exaggerated claims. A Chadron Record news report from April 1989 shows Walz would be leaving for China in August 1989. An Alliance Times-Herald news report from May 1989 shows then-Staff Sgt. Walz toured a Nebraska Army National Guard armory. The local news radio station also reported that in another Nebraska newspaper in August 1989, Walz said he would "leave Sunday en route to China." As Minnesota governor, Walz has made several educational trips to China dating back to the late 1980s. In 2016, Walz claimed to have traveled to China "about 30 times" but his campaign admitted to Minnesota Public Radio it was "closer to 15." By James LaPortaTrue: Walz claims former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly called Trump "the most flawed human being he ever met."Walz: "It's those that were closest to Donald Trump that understand how dangerous he is when the world is this dangerous. His chief of staff, John Kelly, said that he was the most flawed human being he ever met."Details: John Kelly, a retired Marine general and former President Donald Trump's chief of staff, told those close to him in 2020 that Trump "is the most flawed person" he's ever known, according to CNN. Kelly confirmed to CNN several stories that leaked out of the Trump administration during his presidency, among them, Trump's inflammatory comments about service members, calling them "losers" and "suckers." Kelly said, "A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them.'" Trump denies making the comments. By James LaPortaTrue: Walz claims Vance has in the past said "there's a climate problem" and that Trump called climate change "a hoax"Walz: "Sen. Vance said there's a climate problem in the past. Donald Trump called it a hoax and then joked that these things would make more beachfront property to be able to invest in."Details: Former President Donald Trump has described global warming or climate change as a "hoax" on multiple occasions. "The global warming hoax, it just never ends," Trump said during a March 2022 speech in New Orleans, the Washington Post reported. "To which I say, great, we have more waterfront property."Prior to his election to the Senate, Vance said in a 2020 speech at Ohio State University, "We, of course, have a climate problem in our society."By Steve ReillyPartially true: Walz claims patients had to pay $800 for insulin before passage of Inflation Reduction Act during Biden administrationWalz: "The $35 insulin is a good thing, but it costs $5 to make insulin. They were charging $800 to make it before that law went into effect."Details: A handful of researchers have tried to estimate the cost of different insulin medicines, coming up with production costs that often work out to single-digit costs for the monthly supplies of the drug. One published in January touted by Medecins Sans Frontieres estimated reusable pens of insulin could be competitively manufactured for as little as $96 a year – or $8 per month. The Biden administration said the list price for a 30-day supply of Novo Nordisk's insulin pen products, that it targeted for its Medicare Drug Price Negotiation Program, was $495 for a 30-day supply in prices set for 2023. However, those list prices do not reflect myriad confidential markups and rebates that muddy the actual price that individual insurers and patients pay. By Alexander TinNeeds context: Walz claims Project 2025 makes it hard to get contraception and access to fertility treatmentsWalz: "Their Project 2025 is going to have a registry of pregnancies. It's going to make it more difficult, if not impossible, to get contraception, and limit access, if not eliminate access, to infertility treatments." Details: Project 2025 does not call for a registry of pregnancies. However, it does call on state reporting of "how many abortions take place within its borders, at what gestational age of the child, for what reason, the mother's state of residence, and by what method." Project 2025 also calls on the Health and Human Services to use "every available tool, including the cutting of funds" to ensure this state reporting is conducted. There would be measures included in the Project's policies that could make it more difficult to access contraception. Project 2025 calls for the restoration of "Trump religious and moral exemptions to the contraceptive mandate." These exemptions allowed for "religious and moral exemptions and accommodations for coverage of certain preventive services under the ACA." By Jui Sarwate and John Kelly False: Walz claims Trump hasn't paid taxes in 15 yearsDetails: In 2022, a release of some of Donald Trump's tax returns by the House Ways and Means Committee showed that he filed federal income tax returns for the years 2015 through 2020. According to the report, Trump paid $641,931 in federal income tax in 2015; $750 in both 2016 and 2017; and $133,445 in 2019. He paid no federal income tax in 2020, the report found.Before becoming president in 2016, Trump declined to disclose his tax returns. A 2022 New York Times article reported that he had paid no income taxes in 10 of the 15 previous years.By Alain SherterFalse: Vance claims prescription drugs are up about 7% under Biden, but under Trump, they went up just 1.5% over four yearsVance: "When Donald Trump was actually president, and again he has a record to be proud of, prescription drugs fell in 2018 for the first time in a very long time. Under Kamala Harris' leadership, prescription drugs are up about 7%. Under Donald Trump's entire four years, they were up about 1.5%."Details: The latest figures from the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality's annual survey estimate that average expenditures per person on prescription drugs — among those who had spent money on prescriptions — had climbed to a mean of $2,820 in 2022, up from $2,549 in 2020. That's an increase of 11%.But by the same metric, average prescription drug prices per person climbed to $2,303 by 2019, up from $2,107 in 2017, an increase of 9% under Trump.However, measured by a median instead of a mean, expenditures per person for prescription medicines, among people who paid for prescriptions, has largely declined under both the Trump and Biden administrations since 2018.By Alexander TinFalse: Vance claims Harris has not invested in clean air, clean water or climate policyVance: "If we actually care about getting cleaner air and cleaner water, the best thing to do is to double down and invest in American workers and the American people. And unfortunately, Kamala Harris has done exactly the opposite."Details: Under the Biden administration, $370 billion was made available for climate policy in the Inflation Reduction Act to spur American manufacturing in clean energy innovation, production and utilization. This is the largest amount of funding ever made available to generate domestic manufacturing for clean energy.Beyond wind and solar, the policy provides money to expand nuclear energy, hydrogen technology, battery production and carbon capture technology. As CBS News has recently reported, more states are now investing in clean energy technology than ever, and it's been red states that have seen higher investments and jobs in this sector than blue states.By Tracy WholfPartially true: Walz claims "the last 12 months saw the largest decrease in opioid deaths in our nation's history — 30% decrease in Ohio."Walz: "This is a crisis is — the opioid crisis. And the good news on this is the last 12 months saw the largest decrease in opioid deaths in our nation's history. 30% decrease in Ohio."Details: Opioid deaths have fallen to the lowest levels in three years, provisional Centers for Disease Control and Prevention figures suggest, marking the first major decrease on record since deaths first began being tallied this way in 2015. The CDC estimates that 77,461 deaths linked to opioids like heroin and fentanyl occurred in the year ending March 2024, down 7% from a year before nationwide. The agency estimates 3,462 opioid deaths occurred in March 2024 — and for just Ohio, down 18% from March 2023.By Alexander TinMisleading: Vance says Minnesota law Walz signed says "a doctor that presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched, late-term abortion."Vance: "The Minnesota law you signed into law, the statute that you signed into law, it says that a doctor that presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched, late-term abortion."Details: Vance's statement omits key context about the law. In 2023, Walz signed a bill that updated state law regarding medical care for infants "born alive" as a result of an abortion. Both the previous and updated law state that an infant "born alive shall be fully recognized as a human person, and accorded immediate protection under the law." Previously, the law required medical professionals to take all reasonable measures to "preserve the life and health of the born alive infant." After the update, medical personnel are required to take all reasonable measures "to care for the infant who is born alive" — a change advocates say allows parents of infants not expected to survive to forgo extraordinary and futile interventions. Late-term abortions typically occur to save the mother's life or when families are facing situations where the fetus is unlikely to survive long after birth. The Minnesota Department of Health reported eight infants "born alive" from 2019 to 2022. According to the records, three of those infants were classified as "previable" or not developed enough to survive outside the uterus; three were provided "comfort care as planned;" and two had fetal anomalies.By Laura Doan and Emma Li